Do you know how big China is and how many people live there? Of course they are going to have some people with crazy ideas and people who follow them.

With the Chinese cuisine that generally experiments on different animal parts – I am not all that surprise. It’s freaking sick though. What kind sick a_hole would eat sick shit like that. Oh well.


"Nunc Scio Quit Sit Amor"
But always remember - it's still not a premarital sex
if you don't plan on getting married

Well, in Qingdao you could buy a drink that had aborted fetus blood in it. To the locals it was a "novelty". I personal think it's rather revolting but what ever floats their boat.

You have to be joking, you are advocating killing people who are already alive instead of a few cells that could grow in to a being and you some how think that is more humane????

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I would like to propose another method of population control: slaughter all the poor people, or just bomb those sections of town and allow american businesses and individuals move in and invest in the land. It sounds

pretty cruel

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You think? I thought the other thread was bad but this is one of your role model posts.

So you'll do that? I'll give you a laser gun and we'll do a tour around the World zaping people. If you see some large animals then zap them as well?

What do you achieve?


"Nunc Scio Quit Sit Amor"
But always remember - it's still not a premarital sex
if you don't plan on getting married

bigboehmboy,
If you want to make the assertion that it would be no different to kill a poor person than a fetus for purposes of population control, you will need to provide scientific sources which show that both are living human beings (instead of a living poor person and a mere bunch of cells, as the pro-choice side is inclined to believe). Thanks.

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"The sleep of reason produces monsters." ~Francisco de Goya

so what if the fetus belongs to a poor mother, does it get killed twice? :-P

I'd just like to point out that, yes, the world is getting to be hugely overpopulated. If population growth continues at the current rate, it is predicted that all human beings will be forced to become vegetarians simply because the yield of edible products /hectare for arable farming is vastly higher than that for pastoral farming.
Also, 'family planning' would be a nice idea, but there are several points to consider:
a)Vast swathes of LEDCs (poor countries:those with the highest birthrates)are Catholic, meaning that they would reject the idea of any kind of contraception anyway, shorting your ideas out.
b)As harsh as it may sound, AIDS and other STDs such as Chlamydia that cause sterilisation are the only reasons that the population of the earth has not grown significantly more in recent years.
c) Family Planning COSTS. If these people cannot afford to feed themselves and their families, I doubt that condoms and the Pill are top of their agenda. It's not like the drug companies will provide them for free.

*I know that abortion also resonates within this debate, and personally I agree with it, but perhaps those opposed on religious grounds may want to look up Leviticus 17:14 or Deuteronomy 12:23 that claim blood is life. Prior to Week 5 of pregnancy; the foetus has no blood.

"One American burdens the earth much more than twenty Bangladesh"
November 1991 UNESCO Courier

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I'd just like to point out that, yes, the world is getting to be hugely overpopulated.If population growth continues at the current rate, it is predicted that all human beings will be forced to become vegetarians simply because the yield of edible products /hectare for arable farming is vastly higher than that for pastoral farming.

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PLease provide the source.

My source is also telling me that we are now at 6.5 billion and we'll be over 9 billion in 2050. But UNFAO estimate that we can feed up to 35 billion people with the present technologies.

My source is also telling me that population control has also drastically reduced the over all world population growth rate. It has declined from 2.1 percent per year during the period 1966-1970 to a projected 1.3 percent per year during the period 2001-2005.

http://www.lifesite.net/waronfamily/Population_Control/Inherentracism.pdf

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Vast swathes of LEDCs (poor countries:those with the highest birthrates)are Catholic, meaning that they would reject the idea of any kind of contraception anyway, shorting your ideas out.

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Countries like India and China come to mind. According to my research, China and India are the first and the second world's most populous nations. Although China has now (since 1965-2001) lost 73% decline and India had a 51% decline in the same period.

Nevertheless, I found this interesting quote,

The former Pope echoed these statements in his encyclical Evangelium Vitae (the Gospel of Life), and in his apostolic exhortation Familiaris Consortio (The Family in the Modern World). In Evangelium Vitae he issued a stinging criticism of population controllers comparing them to the evil Egyptian Pharaoh who attempted to cull the Hebrew population.

I think the Pope wants us to 'share' more. Less MTV, more canned tuna.

http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2005/nov/05111606.html

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As harsh as it may sound, AIDS and other STDs such as Chlamydia that cause sterilisation are the only reasons that the population of the earth has not grown significantly more in recent years.

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According to my research, it's calculated family planning.


"Nunc Scio Quit Sit Amor"
But always remember - it's still not a premarital sex
if you don't plan on getting married

That source was an article a couple of years ago in a Scientific Journal/Magazine that my biology teacher gave out. It was talking about the vegetarian vs omnivorous debate, but I'm afraid I can't cite the exact article.
And yes, China and India may be the most populated countries on earth, but they are 117th and 76th respectively in the % increase of population in 2005: http://www.photius.com/rankings/population/population_growth_rate_2005_0.html.

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And yes, China and India may be the most populated countries on earth, but they are 117th and 76th respectively in the % increase of population in 2005:

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I have two people. They give birth to one offspring. That is a 50% population increase.

I.E, huge.

I have 1 billion people. Whatever increase they have, percentage wise, will be a lot smaller than a percentage increase in Liechtenstein.

Percentages are never a trusty barometer.

...you annoint my head with oil, my cup runneth over...

Unless we're comparing weighted data.

The ontologial
reference of some object is relative to the metalanguage it is translated into.

I think this is a very useful information. Unless you want to see or use it as satirical purpose only.

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And yes, China and India may be the most populated countries on earth, but they are 117th and 76th respectively in the % increase of population in 2005:

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How can a country that was number 1 is now 117th? I was talking to one Chinese friend and she said, "for most people you really don’t want to have more that 1 kid".

Their method is quite brutal but effective. Nevertheless, it is something the world can learn from.


"Nunc Scio Quit Sit Amor"
But always remember - it's still not a premarital sex
if you don't plan on getting married

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Originally posted by mercury:
Those aborted children who never got to experience life also never have to experience the slow, painful death starvation or AIDS holds for them. They may be just as dead as those starving children, but they're still a few less innocent souls who didn't have to suffer.

"So it goes."
~ meghann

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Whoa, this is so very scary to me.

Word on the street is that *gasp* we are all going to die. Does this mean that we should all just go ahead and do ourselves in?

How insanely arrogant to deem that some lives simply aren't worth living. My great-grandfather survived the Dustbowl and my grandmother survived the Potato Famine. Their lives were difficult- both of them lost several siblings. Should their parents have had no children instead of 5 and 7 respectively?

That which doesn't grow dies.