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I was wondering any Quotelanders were fans of e-book readers and, if so, if there were any suggestions on which to try.

I know most (if not all!) "real readers" have a lot of angst towards ebooks. And so did I... but I've started downloading some to my laptop and it's interesting, though still so very different from "reading". I still buy books en masse, but I'm getting more and more used to being able to carry 100 books with me inside my laptop.

I don't know if I'll ever be able to put out $300 for a machine that does nothing BUT carry the books around. I can't help but look at it and think of how many books (or how few amazing books) that the $300 could buy. Who knows, though? A few years ago I wouldn't have ever bought an ebook at all.

Has anyone else gone to the dark side?
 
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The problem right now is that the E-book reader technology is still overpriced and poorly designed. It's really important that E-books keep a lot of modern codex features, a simple horizontal pad is a terrible idea, and doesn't lend itself well to kind of scanning that our eyes do. A good, vertically orientated A4 design is by far the best, but they seem hard to come by, and often don't have good margin settings.

I love PDFs, I read online all the time, I've become very used to it. Portable PDFs on high-resolution, low-glare, matt-textured screen? Perfect. Hopefully E-books will become the norm, although hopefully books as we know them will stay around for comfort's sake as well.

You know, when I read online, I do miss turning pages.
 
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Free PDFs or do you buy them somewhere? I've been purchasing from the publisher's sites directly.

I miss turning pages, too, but mostly I miss being able to "eyeball" where I am in the book. My husband will say "How much longer will you be reading?" and I look down at my screen and have no idea. It's so different when I have a quarter inch thickness of book left, or something like that-- much easier to predict. Smile

I also miss browsing by book covers and placement. I didn't realize how bad I was at remembering titles until I started having to sift through a list of titles. Adobe Digital Editions has a sort of "bookshelf" systems, but still... not the same.
 
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Most of my online reading has been free-access science articles, particularly in links via Scienceblogs.com. I've got about 50 on the evolution of the eye. Finding e-books can be harder. Bibliophile and a few others posted links of good online compilations of books way back when. Isn't too hard to find PDFs of classic books, if you do a little digging. Modern e-books I don't deal with, I buy hard copy.
 
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A big NAY!

Have you checked the Kindle on Amazon? Personally I find reading on a computer/laptop very irritating. Other than the fact that it robs me of my pleasure to fill my bookshelves with colourful spines, and leaf through pages yellowed by age, I absolutely abhor that I have to stare at the screen again after a whole days work in front of the computer.

Maybe if I was something other than a designer who used the comp 24/7, I would have at the very least tolerated them... but I absolutely refuse to read them online.

The only time that I download e-books is when they are available in print ready pdf files and when its existence has become so rare that I can't find it anywhere else. I guess "something is better than nothing" surely applies here.

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That quote reminds me, Asavari! I always find myself wishing and wishing and wishing that books could levitate. My shoulders and neck get SO tired, no matter how I hold a book. Forget E-books, get me my Hover-Book please Science!
 
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I'm with Ananya. Love the feel of my books in my hands and I find the actual page, brightened by a soft night lamp, kinder on my eyes.

My one other (paranoid) fear is how much easier it would be for Machiavellian-types in power to manipulate, change, edit, etc. important documents. Wasn't it Animal Farm where some proverb's word kept changing?

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True, a real book is more comforting than an e book could ever be.

I wonder how much more likely it is for an e-book to be manipulated? It seems just as likely that a print version could be changed, unless you buy the older books only.

Especially with the print-on-demand book kiosks now:

http://web.worldbank.org/WBSITE/EXTERNAL/PUBLICATION/INFOSHOP1/0,,contentMDK:20884077~pagePK:162350~piPK:165575~theSitePK:225714,00.html

That's the nice thing about ebooks-- it encourages these books to go digital, which is probably going to save a lot of literature from being lost with the ages as it so often is.
 
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I strongly vote nay. I could never use an ebook. I don't even like to buy new books. Library books and used books all have a personal history to them that I prefer. Every ripped page, crease, and cracked spine contributes to it.
I'd like the internet to remain my source of trivial entertainment and news only.

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Update on this, I finally bought a Sony Ebook reader. I'm not overly impressed with the technology, but having the ability to carry tons of books with me wherever I go is fantastic. It's not nearly the same, though, and I still find myself reading out of real books as soon as I get home. But for long days in the car, it seems to be working really well.

On this topic, I've noticed a lot of public domain books have been rehashed, with forwards by whoever has rewritten them, being sold in the Sony Ebook store. I've also noticed a few discrepancies between the original books and the downloadable versions-- so it appears that yours fears were not in vain, Aire.
 
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