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All I get when researching the origins of this phrase -- "The Art of the Deal" -- is the Donald Trump book.
Someone PLEASE free me from having to cite that arrogant, rapacious twit -- tell me it came from somewhere previous.
Thanks.
 
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Trump's book, in collaboration with Tony Schwartz, came out in 1987. It appears to have originated with Trump or Schwartz unless someone can find an earlier cite. In Chapter 1, Trump states, "Deals are my art form."


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Thanks, yes -- but of course I already ascertained that.
I just kinda doubt that they came up with the phrase, and would like to properly credit the first employers of it.
Thanks again.
M Koppy
 
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As Zendam as already reported, that one goes to Trump and Schwartz. Here's an interesting quote:
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The art of negotiation is perhaps what most deeply distinguishes man from the animals, and it is this art and this will to negotiate that has brought man forward, elevated him beyond the animals.
~ Harry Martinson (1904 - 1978) [Swedish Nobel Prize Winner in Literature]

The Science of Government it is my duty to study, more than all other Sciences: the Art of Legislation and Administration and Negotiation, ought to take place, indeed to exclude in a manner all other Arts.
~ John Adams (1735 - 1826)
Source: letter to Abigail Adams, after May 12, 1780.—Adams Family Correspondence, ed. L. H. Butterfield, vol. 3, p. 342 (1973).


 
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Yes, interesting quote from Harry Martinson -- not sure if I agree with the assertion, but noteworthy nonetheless.
As for the Trump/Schwartz attribution, that's EASY, of course. ANYONE can find that.
My gut tells me -- admittedly without factual grounding; just intuition -- that there's probably an antecedent.
And anyone with insight, or even just thoughtful speculation, on such is entreatied to weigh in.
Thanks.
 
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Since you asked, I've heard,

"Pimps make deals. Professionals make Transactions."

Michael
 
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I dunno if there's enough difference in definitions of deal and transaction -- rather, connotions -- to assert there's much insight in that quote, actually. Not to me anyway. You?
Anyway, am still hoping to find antecedent to "art of the deal" -- hate to have to credit that scumball Trump and his ghostwriter.
Thanks.
 
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I meant to write connotations, not "connotions" -- but hey, THERE'S a word coining. I say -- since I just made it up -- that it means "a word definition that makes a big commotion"....
Ha-ha-ha....
 
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